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1953 ПЕРВЫЙ МЕЖДУНАРОДНЫЙ КОНГРЕСС ПО ДИАНЕТИКЕ И САЕНТОЛОГИИ

THE MOST FAVORABLE PROCESS

ДЕМОНСТРАЦИЯ: ИСПОЛЬЗОВАНИЕ ПРОЦЕССА «В-И-О»

A lecture given on 1 October 1953 by L. Ron Hubbard

Демонстрация одитинга, проведенная 1 октября 1953 года

36 MINUTES

Я проведу для вас короткую демонстрацию использования «В-и-О». Я проведу эту демонстрацию, просто используя установленную процедуру. И вам совершенно незачем отклоняться от этой процедуры, независимо от того, что вы одитируете, используя «В-и-О», при условии, что вы одитируете людей и вэйлансы. Но эту процедуру можно очень легко приспособить к конкретной ситуации, просто подставляя в команды МЭСТ-объекты.

All right And this being the fourth of the series, concerns itself with the most favorable processes.

И вы обнаружите самые удивительные явления, связанные с МЭСТ-объектами. Они застревают сильнее, чем люди, поскольку они, конечно же, представляют собой более крупные массы энергии; это более плотные, твердые массы энергии.

At this time, I would say, by calculation, that there was some ten to the eighteenth or twentieth or thirty-first power techniques. To know all of these techniques and to know everything that they do is almost impossible.

There’s really no reason to go over most of these techniques, except in passing to people who are interested in investigation, research, phenomena But an auditor wanting results is apt to fall into the track of going back over all these techniques, one after the other, if he’s not careful; because he will get, either in his own case or in the case of some person he’s processing, philosophic twist of mind which starts delivering up all manner of computations and answers about existence and combinations of thinkingness and combinations of interrelations, which themselves amount to, in the aggregate, the track that has just been followed for three years.

Now, we’ll just start in here at random.

He would find, if he used the techniques which we are now using, facsimiles, the Theta-MEST Theory – all of these things would come up. He would find Lock Scanning, he would find grief charges, he would find methods of repetition, he would find all the techniques involved in PDH (pain-drug-hypnosis). He would go on and on and on with endless amounts of data.

Так вот, мы просто начнем наугад.

This universe specializes in data. We’re not interested as much in data as we’re interested in results, because a collection of data is only an examination of the past, and we’re interested in predicting a future. And if we’re interested in predicting a future, then it’s obvious that the best way to predict the future is to make it That sounds highly adventurous, but let me assure you that the only time in the past when you’ve ever thought hard is when you didn’t have or thought you didn’t have enough force, enough energy, enough MEST or enough ability or skill to overcome the opposition with which you believed yourself to be faced, and you started to think.

Force is a substitute for a complete pervasion. Force is the first entrance into randomity, and below that is thinking and figuring. And so, a person starts to think, on a low level of the society, when he considers that he is unable to put out enough force to solve his problem – whatever you want to call it However brutal this may seem to you, it follows through.

Thinking results from an insufficiency of supply. That tells you, then, that the person who was very dependent upon the exterior environment for his supply would think very hard, and would then become dependent upon his exterior environment entirely for thinking. He would become a puppet in the last analysis, wouldn’t he?

LRH: Your father, you had a father?

And so we go on this gradient scale of the fellow at first realizes that – he says, „Let’s see now, I think I will take on this galaxy.“ And then he finds out he doesn’t have quite enough force to do that, so he says, „Well, we’ll confine ourselves to the solar system.“ And by the time he’s about two, he says, „Well, let’s see, I’d better confine myself to the world, this town, my family.“

ЛРХ: Ваш отец, у вас был отец?

And now he gets to be thirty-two, and he says, „Well, I can barely confine myself to me, because if I were just a little bit bigger I could handle me.“ In other words, „If I had just a little bit more force, I could direct the actions of my body efficiently, so the best way to do is to figure out how to train my body better.“

It’s not that thought is junior to force, but compulsive thought directed toward a prediction of the future is prompted by an anxiety of the future, and the future – anxiety about the future results only from a recognition that one has insufficient force to overcome the obstacles which will greet him in the future.

Therefore, thinking, in an effort to predict what is going to happen, could be on two levels: one, a very, very, very high level by which a fellow is just playing with it; he’s just fooling around and he’s – so on, and it’s lots of fun. Scientists do this. These people are fantastic, they can be physically at the bottom of the scale and mentally at the top of the scale almost simultaneously, and you’ll see this happen. As long as they’re tinkering around with a ham radio set or a formula for something, why, they’re just as happy and pleased. It doesn’t matter whether this formula works out or not They’re not doing that because they have an insufficiency of force, you see, they’re just interested – something to look at, something to play with.

PC: Yes.

And then they go home. And when they get home, they really start thinking, because there they have problems. You’ve got the wife, she’s not interested in chemistry. And they’ve got the kids, and they seem to make an awful lot of racket And if he could just make a little more money, why, then he could solve some of these problems. And that kind of thinking simply results from the fact that very many factors object to his reaching out and cracking a couple of skulls. And it results from the fact that when he goes down to the grocery store, the grocer stands there, you see, and says, „Money.“ It results from an insufficiency of supply; it results from the fact that he doesn’t have a big enough house, he doesn’t have enough wives. Insufficiency of supply, right down the boards. All right.

ПК: Да.

When he comes up against that thinking process, he is into the field of anxiety. And you will find some very splendid thinkers in the field of science, so on, who are just marvelous as long as they’re at work, and who are terrible social blunders – not make social blunders, they are social blunders.

You recognize what’s happening there: the man is trying to predict the future at home, because of an insufficiency of force, supply, energy, whatever you want to call it. So there’s two levels at which theta operates, and you’ll find it operating in every human being the same way, and one of these levels we call analytical thought. We really even shouldn’t call it analytical thought and we don’t, but we did in the first book so we’ve kind of been stuck with it What we are calling it now, more technically, is a mathematical symbol, which, being defined by its own definition, does not open up things to argument, and we simply call it theta or thetan. That’s fine; theta is a Greek letter, which in itself symbolically represented thought So let’s just scotch the whole problem and just put a mathematical symbol there, and not have any further semantic arguments, and say this theta, then, operates in its purest level just on an observational, computational level, which is not interfered with by stimulus-response mechanisms. It doesn’t think because something is compelling it to think; it thinks because it’s interested.

And the other level of thought is, simply, „got to,“ and „can’t“ And that, of course, is where human beings think at home.

LRH: Yeah. Remember him very well. All right. Put your father’s body on yours backwards – a mock-up.

So, we run into these two levels, and we get the paradox called man. And man is doing what he’s doing and misbehaving the way he’s misbehaving because he thinks he has to, because he has an insufficiency of energy to overcome his future obstacles.

ЛРХ: Да. Вы его очень хорошо помните. Ладно. Наденьте тело вашего отца на собственное задом наперед... его мокап.

Any thief in jail will tell you he had to do it Pretty Boy Floyd, I think his name was, wept very gently in jail, because actually, he was an unfortunate creature, he was a victim of circumstances. When the police officer for whose murder he was being jailed had walked up to the car, it just came over him that he had to shoot him and he did. And he went to jail, and he explained to all the reporters that he was really a good man at heart, but he just had to do it And so does everybody believe when he gets into this maze called computation, in this environment, into the „just-have-to-do-its,“ and „can’ts“ – insufficiency of supply.

This is reflected very broadly. You know, every once in a while somebody will walk down the street, and he will need a hat And he’ll see that there’s a hat sale, and he will have an excess ten dollars in his pocket And he’ll look at the hats, and there’s a hat there he likes very much, and he looks at the hat, and then walks on down the street without buying the hat Why?

Well, he knows his insufficiency of supply is so great that he can’t have a hat. This is stimulus-response; it is not rational. There’s no reasonableness to this. He has the money in his pocket; he has the time to go in and buy the hat; he needs the hat; there is the hat he wants; and he doesn’t buy the hat, because he can’t have a hat Why can’t he have a hat?

PC: All right.

Now, you could go over and talk with somebody on this line and try to argue him into realizing that he doesn’t have an insufficiency of supply, and he will still have an insufficiency of supply. You can reason, talk, cajole, bribe, do anything you want to this reactive mind, in an effort to lead it into a reasonable activity and adjudication of its environment, and it will still go on being a normal human being.

ПК: Хорошо.

You can, however, reduce its motion. Its motion reduces, but doesn’t increase. The reason the motion of the reactive mind doesn’t actually increase in terms of controlled motion, which is to say, increase in terms of better procurement of energy, is because it isn’t manufacturing any energy. It is borrowing energy from elsewhere and using it.

Now, it starts borrowing this energy from the beingness of the person himself, which is – we call thetan – again, a mathematical symbol. Thetan doesn’t mean „spirit,“ „soul,“ or anything else – it’s just avoiding all those terms; it’s just saying no responsibility, no responsibility – it’s just a thetan. All right.

And the reactive mind has an insufficiency of supply, and the thetan, the being of the person – that’s you, by the way. People who go around talking about „My thetan thinks…“ You’re just listening to some more of this reactive mind, because a person doesn’t have another thetan; he’s it. When he says „I“ and what he means by „I,“ and everything he means by „I“ is him, and that’s the thetan. And the thetan gets a lot more things added to him that are not necessarily him but he’s appropriated them too, and Freud called it „alter ego,“ because it was a nice term. Well, in the same way we use thetan as a nice term. And a thetan there, it may be still perfectly competent to use – create and use – energy. But the reactive mind, with which this being is still connected, is energy-hungry, terrifically hungry for energy. And so every time the being puts out a little erg of energy, the reactive mind-the thing the analytical mind is running – the reactive mind soaks up from the actual reasonability of the person, slurp, what little bit of energy the reasonableness of the person puts out, because of an energy starvation. Do you see that?

LRH: Now put it on backwards with an idea of the question now, the questioning attitude on his part on backwards.

A person could be very, very competent in creating and directing energy. And every time he creates a little energy, it sort of disappears and he doesn’t quite know where it goes, and before this he never knew where it went Now, you ask this person to exteriorize; that is to say, you ask this person to be at a little distance from the body. This will come to a lot of people as a shock when you do this to preclears. You just – in off the streets – you just say, „Be three feet back of your head now.“

ЛРХ: Теперь наденьте его на себя задом наперед с идеей о вопросе, у него вопрошающее отношение и он задом наперед.

The fellow says, „All right, I – I am. Now – hey!“ Big shock. He finds out just in that moment there that he doesn’t happen to be an integral part of this MEST thing.

Now, when he’s three feet back of his head, he has some little chance of putting out a couple of ergs of energy without getting them soaked up, as long as he doesn’t have his attention immediately upon the body. But if you could put him out there several miles, he could then safely generate some energy, because it wouldn’t immediately be taken away from him by the reactive bank.

Now, the reason the reactive bank can take it away from him is because a large portion of the reactive bank is his own. This is just old stuff that he picked up like goats chew up tin cans, and he just sort of picked this up here and that up there, and he’s got this old favored facsimile that he swiped someplace, and he’s just got junk, junk, junk, junk all around. And it didn’t mean anything and it didn’t do anything to him till one day he got into confluence with a body. And when he got connected with the body he put this stuff into the body too, like you put things into trunks in the attic. And now it matches his wavelength and he can control the body better and this works out just fine; only he isn’t just quite sure how it’s working out, but it works out But every time he thinks he’s matching the wavelength of what he put in there. And all of his control of the body and everything he’s ever taught the body is matching up with his wavelength.

PC: Yes.

And so every time he thinks, the body picks up any energy which is created and it starts to act as a sponge on a starvation of energy. And as a result, when he makes a facsimile, the facsimile itself is pulled in, just like it was water going into a sponge. And when the thetan puts out a little beam of energy, pam, that goes into the body.

ПК: Да.

Now, I’m not talking about anything strange or esoteric. Because all of these things have been strange and esoteric, one has a feeling that maybe they still are. But if you just take pc after pc and you say, „Be three feet back of your head.“ „Now be eight miles back of your head.“ „Now, that’s fine, now put out a beam of energy.“ „Now walk across the ceiling.“ „Now find-change something.“ And then, „Now come back and pick up the body and throw it over on the couch.“ And he does and…

Every once in a while you get a preclear that does it just like that. He doesn’t know anything about what you’re doing. You have to assume if it keeps happening, person after person, that it must be an objective phenomenon, instead of an objectionable one.

I dare say, however, that you could go on trying to teach aborigines or something the fact that when meat was decayed it made their stomachs ache, and they’d probably go right on blaming God. But this is possible that you could do this. But there are a lot of people around that are very, very hard to convince on this. I’ve had an auditor say to me, „Well, I know my preclears really don’t exteriorize.“

LRH: Now turn it around to align with your body with the feeling that it’s an answer.

„Why do you know they really don’t?“

ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его, чтобы он был расположен так же, как ваше тело, с чувством, что это ответ.

„Well, it never shows up on the E-Meter.“

„Well, what preclears have you tried to exteriorize?“

„Well, right after I finished the course, I tried one and he couldn’t, so I’ve given it up.“

PC: Yes.

„What do you have them do now?“

ПК: Да.

„Well, I double-terminal them.“

„Well, what does that do?“

„Oh, it makes them feel more comfortable.“

LRH: Okay. Now, throw that one away. And put another body of your father’s on you backwards with the feeling that it’s the answer.

„Well, why don’t you tell – by the way, during the course, did anybody tell you to be three feet back of your head?

ЛРХ: Хорошо. Теперь выбросьте его. И наденьте на себя другое тело вашего отца задом наперед с чувством, что это ответ.

„Well, a fellow tried it once, and I wasn’t, so…“ In other words, he’s just working on a complete no-action basis. He knows it can’t be true. You take this same fellow and start Acceptance Level Processing and what do you find? Acceptance of exterior energy; nothing but Just the thought of stepping back of his head, you see, puts out enough energy to really start pushing him back of his head, and that energy goes slurp and there goes the thought, so he knows it can’t happen. Very magical, nothing up the sleeves. You see how that would work out? Therefore, the fellow couldn’t believe it! So you have to have another technique.

And that other technique would merely consist of feeding the bank enough energy until it was no longer starved and the fellow could think of stepping three feet back of his head without the energy connected to the thought being absorbed and, therefore, the thought disappearing.

Now, it’s a horrible thing that actually, the actual being of a person could think the most wonderful and pleasant and esoteric thoughts in the world, and have them instantly disappear. Have you ever had a preclear, you said, „Put up a mock-up“ – energy picture is what a mock-up is, nothing more nor less – “put up a mock-up out there of a girl.“

He says (pause), „Can’t!“

PC: Yes.

And you say, „No, no. Go on now, just put up an energy picture of a girl out there. Put up a pic….“

ПК: Да.

„Can’t!“

„Come on, try, try.“

„Well, I almost did that time.“

LRH: Now, just turn it around faced where it was as the question.

„Well, do it some more.“

ЛРХ: Теперь просто поверните его лицом в ту же сторону, что и раньше, в качестве вопроса.

„Yeah, I can get a picture of a girl, what are you talk… she’s gone.“

„Now put up a few more, put up a few more.“

„All right, all right. Yeah, you know what happens? I put this picture of this girl out there and she slides into this black cloud over here.“

PC: Yeah.

Now, that’s been going on ever since he’s been putting up pictures of the girl. But putting out the energy itself, the energy of putting it out was also absorbed, the memory of its appearing and being seen was also absorbed by the bank, and it made a complete wipeout If you as an auditor recognized this, you could see a great deal of sense in good old Self Analysis. You just keep putting these mock-ups there.

ПК: Да.

The person says, „But my mock-ups have no persistence. I put them out there and they’re gone. I put them out there and they’re gone. And – I just – sometimes I can’t put up mock-ups of some things at all.“

What’s happening to those mock-ups? They’re chunks of energy and they’re being soaked up by the reactive mind like a sponge. And they’re soaked up so fast and the impression of them being soaked up also goes with their being soaked up, and so the person doesn’t think he can put out a mock-up. But if you just keep it up…

One of the worst cases I ever saw in this, I made a sort of a test out of. I just set him to work for two hours a day, and was on the telephone and so forth, making sure that he was doing it And he was pretty good; he went on and did it He did it for about six weeks at about two hours a day, and he could get the prettiest mock-ups, and one day somebody said to him, „Why don’t you be three feet back of your head?“ and he was.

LRH: Done it? All right. Throw that one away. Now take another body of your father’s and put it on as the question.

And he said, „There’s nothing surprising about this.“ He said, „I knew I could do this all the time.“

ЛРХ: Сделали? Хорошо. Выбросьте его. Теперь возьмите другое тело своего отца и наденьте его на себя в качестве вопроса.

Now, here you have the snake eating himself all up, starting in at his tail. And when a case gets too starved for energy, it responds like a sponge for energy. And it starts to pick up everything inflowing, and it specializes in inflows. And it specializes in betrayal, of course, because betrayal is getting the anchor points smashed in. It specializes in anything and everything you can think of that has anything to do with collapsing anchor points, because every time the case tries to put out a little bit of space, those anchor points, themselves being energy, come right into the bank and are absorbed. It’s just a question of mechanical – just plain, ordinary energy.

And the reactive mind is so starved for energy that it has to figure all the time how it’s going to get more energy. And it doesn’t care how, whether it gets it by being run over by a truck or by eating fish or anything else. Anything goes. And this is the behavior of the reactive mind. What we normally consider the reactive mind would be the body, but the actual part of it is, is the thetan has a reactive mind of his own – it’s this bric-a-brac he carries around.

See, out there in space you get – 270 degrees, or almost, in a vacuum, and electricity behaves in a peculiar fashion. It has no resistance. You could make a bomb this way. Somebody over in Russia wrote a paper on it; I suppose they shot him immediately. (And Russia probably has now issued a manifesto saying it now possesses this as a weapon, that being their usual cycle.) They take something in absolute zero and, having no resistance, they keep pumping a can full of energy, and of course, they could pump billions and billions and billions of volts into a can. And then, when they took it out and it would all of a sudden warm up, what a terrific electronic flash you would get, because no resistance, you see.

PC: Frontwards or backwards?

It presents the silly problem of having a quart can into which you could pour a tank car full of milk, and it all goes into the quart can, because it’s absolute zero. And now you’ve put it out where it’s warm, and you’ve got a tank car full of milk again, only you’ve got it too quick, so it splatters over the landscape.

ПК: Лицом вперед или задом наперед?

Now a thetan is into this. When a thetan is in the vicinity of absolute zero, his own energy behaves accordingly; hasn’t any resistance, there’s nothing to using energy. He just uses it He can put it out this way and that way and tie it in ribbons and do other things with it There’s nothing to it And then he gets down here and he’s got air and it’s warm and it’s not a vacuum, and he wonders what’s happened to his energy. He can’t make it anymore.

Every once in a while, a thetan will pull in something that was packaged one way or another and he didn’t quite know how, and I don’t know quite how he packages it, and you get a terrific explosion in your preclear or in front of him or behind him. And a lot of your cases have gone down Tone Scale immediately following an electronic explosion, which occurred after an operation.

You ask them, „What was the exact symptom when you started to go downhill?“ They can’t remember. It’s a dispersal, of course. „Well, what was the symptom?“

LRH: No, just put it on backwards. Always backwards. You see, you’ve always been facing these people with whom you’ve had collapsed terminals.

They think this over for a long time, then they say, „Well, I don’t know. I remember I was operated upon for gallstones. About three nights later, it seems to me, I woke up in the middle of the night and there was a blinding flash in my stomach.“ Now, it’s hard for a person to recall those things. The easiest way to make him recall it is just tell him to start mocking up explosions. And if he starts mocking up explosions, all the data about explosions will eventually come into his possession.

ЛРХ: Нет, просто наденьте его на себя задом наперед. Всегда задом наперед. Понимаете, вы всегда находились лицом к лицу с теми людьми, с которыми вы сомкнули терминалы.

But here we needn’t go so far afield as absolute zero or thetans or anything else to get anywhere with this argument All we have to do is start feeding the reactive mind energy, and the reactive mind stops this think, think, think, think, think and starts straightening out.

Now, the energy is a somethingness; the somethingness has to have a nothingness around it. And you start feeding the reactive mind space, lots of space, you reduce the havingness of the preclear. The real answer is to start feeding him space, but you can’t do this, because it starts to evaporate the energy which he has. And you give him more and more space and more and more space, and he has less and less and less and less, and you’re coming down to where he has identified himself with nothing.

The thetan thinks he’s nothing, because his first contact with the MEST universe is space, and space is nothing. And so he’s space as far as he’s concerned. And you could, theoretically, run out this whole thing. You could run out the idea that he was nothing by simply running out space with Q and A, which I’ll give you during these lectures.

PC: All right.

But you reduce his havingness. And if you will go out and find a little child who is eating candy and you jerk the candy away from him, what will a little child do? And if you keep taking candy away from him, what will he do? Eventually go into apathy. It doesn’t necessarily follow that if you keep giving him candy, he will go way up Tone Scale, but he’ll sure be cheerful about it.

ПК: Хорошо.

So you don’t want to take all the candy away. As much as a thetan would hate to admit it, energy is delicious; it’s real candy. And you’ll get some character processing himself, and he’ll process himself endlessly. Just like candy – just go on and on because it tastes so good, but he doesn’t dare admit that it tastes so good, you see. He’s got to have a reason for doing it Therefore, you will find some cases, it’s almost impossible to run anything on the case but a concept, because the concept will keep chewing up the energy and converting the energy, and it doesn’t waste any energy. So the thing to do is to restore a lot of havingness to the preclear, by the form of mock-ups. You give him havingness.

Now, why do you go out on this cycle of returning his havingness? The only thing wrong with his thinking is his thinking. What is wrong with the mind is wrong in the mind. It isn’t wrong on Jupiter. See, what’s wrong with the mind is wrong with the mind.

We have this unit called the mind, and we don’t care what shape it is; we’ll draw here a circle. And everything that is wrong with the mind is connected immediately and intimately with the mind. It sounds like one of these idiotic statements, but it’s… Therefore, you’re not going to get him over claustrophobia, you’re just going to get him into a rigid control of claustrophobia by simply making them occupy small spaces like closets. „I’ll show you, you little brat, cry in the dark. Throw them in the dark, that’s the way to cure them.“ Well, they go into a sort of a rigid apathy about the dark, and after that somebody says, „Are you interested in the dark?“ or „Does darkness worry you?“

LRH: All right. Now, put it on there as the question. Now turn it around as the answer.

„Doesn’t worry me. No, doesn’t worry me anymore. It used to, but it doesn’t worry me anymore. Doesn’t worry me a bit, really doesn’t worry me. Never think about it anymore! What are you asking for?“ All right.

ЛРХ: Хорошо. Теперь наденьте его на себя в качестве вопроса. Теперь поверните его в качестве ответа.

So there’s trying to work it out in the MEST universe, you see. So the problems of the mind are in the mind, they are not on the Coca-Cola sign. The Coca-Cola sign, which I mentioned earlier, may be in beautiful neon, but it does have this tremendous characteristic it says, „C-o-c-a C-o-l-a,“ it says. Does it? Does it say anything? It sure doesn’t It’s sitting there, and it’s a certain form and shape, a series of geographical locations in MEST which has absolutely m meaning until you come along and read it And then this series of shapes translates itself as a picture, which goes back to a sound, which goes into a picture, which connects up with the stomach and the taste mechanism. And this horrible gooey syrup that they pour carbonated water in regurgitates in the bank and you know what you are looking at, you’re looking at a sign that says „Coca-Cola.“ Well, boy, that’s really artificial, between ourselves; that’s going way around it and so forth. But that’s MEST talking.

Anytime you can make a MEST appear to talk, you’re going to get a chain of aberrations following it, by the way. When MEST can appear to talk, it can start to be sensible. And as soon as it starts to look sensible, watch out, because it can’t talk and can’t think.

This, by the way, is no condemnation whatsoever of books, television, radio or motion pictures. These, which constitute the major aberrations of the society – it’s no part of me to run them down. If people want to be foolish enough to go to motion pictures, let them go; let them go crazy.

PC: Mm-hm.

Now, a picture – picture occurs in the mind only after this „resistance and then want“ cycle takes place. See, resistance. A picture will occur in the mind automatically when that happens, but pictures seldom occur of possessions which are not resisted particularly. But you get this concatenation of a desire of MEST all the way along the line, which is a reversal. And the MEST says that you want it, because it’s got gravity, and you’ve mocked up the gravity, so obviously you’ve got all these computations on the thing and you need it You have a reason, too – you have to get to work every morning with that car. That’s beside the point that you work some, maybe, five hours out of your eight to pay for that car, but that’s beside the point You have to get to work with that car – big reason.

ПК: Угу.

So when you get this car, you actually have an object. Well, this is tremendously desirable – an object It’s a big mass of energy. Fine, there’s nothing wrong with owning energy, nothing wrong with owning cars or anything else. But there’s something wrong with the next abstraction: losing the car, finance company.

And here’s a car, and then it’s gone. Well, when that first happens to a fellow, he keeps a picture of it. It’s very touching and nostalgic. A person only keeps pictures around of things he can’t have. He only keeps blocks of energy around when he can’t have energy. Isn’t that sweet, nostalgic and touching? The only reason, really, no matter what the preclear says – the only reason he’s got that picture, the only reason he’s got that picture of Papa that keeps recurring to him all the time („Papa’s a dog; Papa’s no good“ and so forth) – the only reason he’s got that picture is because he can’t have Papa, so he’s got a picture of Papa.

Now, you see this dramatized. The old lady who has lost a son has that picture square on the middle of the mantelpiece; that’s right where it is. As long as he was alive and breathing and happy and cheerful, it was in a trunk or on the back of the piano or something of the sort. She didn’t need a picture. But now she hasn’t got him, so she’s got a picture. And that is the role of pictures and one of the reasons, specious or spurious though the reason may be, why people have pictures. But that is one reason up from a more pertinent fact: just the raw fact of energy.

LRH: Okay. Let’s throw that away. Now let’s put your mother’s body on backwards as a questioning feeling.

Now, the picture combines something that belongs exclusively to the thetan, which is the aesthetic. The combination of energies and forms and spaces so as to create what a thetan classifies as a pleasing object or motion would be what an aesthetic is. Well, he could keep something just as an aesthetic and wind up by chewing it up just because he was short of energy. The energy has become important This would be the degeneration of the person from an aesthetic individual to a very practical man. He started in with the pictures and wound up by chewing them up for energy, you see.

ЛРХ: Ладно. Выбросьте его. Теперь наденьте на себя тело вашей матери задом наперед как чувство вопроса.

So you can count on it with a preclear that what he’s got in mental picture form is there because, one, he’s short of energy, so he’s got this picture because it represents a mass of energy which he’s liable to chew up someday and he won’t have that picture anymore either. The second reason is it’s something he can’t have. And when he really can’t can’t-have it and he knows he can’t have it and it’s gone forever, it’s a black picture and he can’t remember it.

First he had a picture of it, you see, and then his energy scarcity made him eat up the picture and now he hasn’t even got the picture, so he says he needs pictures to remember. He doesn’t need pictures to remember; he can make all the pictures he wants, unless somebody’s convinced him he can’t or unless it seems beautifully sad or dramatic to him not to be able to. All right.

So, the blackness which you see accumulating is many things. The blackness can be the blackness of nothingness, the blackness of space or it can be a blackness of substance which is chewed-up and charred energy, which is still better than no energy. The person who has solid masses of blackness packed around him is going around with the consolation that he’s at least got some black energy. It’s very, very insulting to him, too, when you suddenly point it out sometime, „Well, it’s at least energy.“ You’re not being properly sympathetic. All right.

PC: Yes.

When, then, you evaluate a process, it would be along, more or less, the following forms: One – the weakest process is, one, does it convert a thought-energy pattern into usable energy? That would be one, see. That would be the weakest process, and that would be Concept Running. What Concept Running does is, he can’t have the energy because the thought in it is too dangerous, he thinks, so you just run the thought out of it and then he can at least have that little slice of energy. All you’ve done for him is give him that slice of energy, which he already had but he can’t use. You see that? And that would be the weakest process there is admissible at this time.

ПК: Да.

Also under that classification comes the running of an engram. You’re running the perceptics out of an engram; you’re running a slab of energy flat without destroying the energy, see, so the energy doesn’t impinge an effect the way it is, and so it becomes a usable piece of energy.

Restimulation is „Gee, what a nice, beautiful, big piece of energy – slurp. Uuuh! Hey, wait a minute“ – chronic somatic. He almost could eat it up. And he keeps it there and gimps and limps or stutters or twitches or something for the next twenty years in the hope that it will all of a sudden go away and he’ll be able to consume the rest of it If there’s an analytical thought on top of it at all, it’s that one, and that’s a chronic somatic.

Another thing is there gets to be a big scarcity of pain. Some preclears you have to really fix them up so they can make up a lot of pain before they’re happy, and then they get so they have to waste pain in brackets and then they can have pain. And at that time, this now makes a lot of facsimiles available to them they didn’t have before, so momentarily they’ll come on up on an upsurge just because they can have pain. If they can have pain, then they can have a lot of the energy in the bank, you see. So then they can drain on this bank some more, and it’ll go flatter and blacker. That’s no good; that isn’t really what you wanted to do with the case, but the fellow is a lot happier if he can do that All right. Weakest process.

LRH: Now turn it around facing the way it was with the feeling that it’s the answer.

The next process admissible, as far as processing is concerned, according to my own investigation and experience, is the restoration of energy to the bank, the restoration of energy to the bank And such a process would simply be Self Analysis. You just keep putting mock-ups out there. You increase the fellow’s havingness. You get him back to a point where he realizes he can at least have some mock-ups. He might not be able to get the real thing out here, but he can get some mock-ups. You see where we’re going in this processing?

ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его лицом в ту же сторону, что и раньше, с чувством, что это ответ.

The mock-up is the substitute for MEST, or a substitute for a mass of energy, because, remember, we’re working with three universes. And if he can’t have a mock-up of his own which is solid and can be stood up this way and patted together that way and pulled out that way, and he can mess around with this energy and so on – if he can’t do that comfortably, if he can’t create energy in blocks and solidities of that character and so on, well, the next thing to do is to show him that some does exist around, which is MEST, and he’s somewhat convinced he can’t have that, so he’s out of present time because he can’t really find it He knows it quite isn’t there and he can’t have it, so he’s out of present time.

If he can’t have present time, he can at least have blocks of energy. If he can’t have the blocks of energy which exist right here and now, he can at least have them someplace in the bank. And so, he gets thrown back on the time track and you get the past tense manifestation of psychosis; that is to say, the psychotic’s always in the past. Why is he in the past? Well, he’s got all the energy out there, and he’s way back there looking for some now. Of course, it drives him pretty batty and he’s in pretty terrible condition and so forth, but he’s still got energy hunger. So that would be the next process.

And the third process on a level of acceptability as far as he’s concerned… (Number two, by the way, includes Expanded GITA and Acceptance Level Processing, any process which restores kinds of energy.) The third one would be restoring a specialized cycle to the bank, and that would be just one thing which we’ll go into later: explosions. That’s the most valuable kind of energy of all. Gee. Gee, that’s wonderful. It’s why you get all these boys down at Los Alamogordo chewing away at atom bombs. The glee with which they work on this would turn you a little bit pale. All right.

PC: It kept on turning.

Here you have one type of facsimile which, when run, is tremendously effective. And the reason why is the explosion is the basic desirable thing, and it’s what got him into wanting energy in the first place. So if you give him enough explosions and he mocks up enough explosions and mocks up enough explosions in brackets and so on, why, he’s much better off. And this is coupled with running attention and admiration on the blackness which immediately follows the explosion. A part of an explosion is the blackness, you see, and that’s where, really, the blackness gets nailed down on the case.

ПК: Оно продолжило поворачиваться.

All right, then, we get mobs of people admiring the explosion, which explodes so noisily and beautifully and is followed by the blackness, and we don’t stop their admiration just because the blackness followed it; that was what happened in real life, so the blackness never quite went away. So he’s still got this tremendous store of blackness in the bank. It’s still energy, but you give him enough white energy and the black energy has a tendency to go away, and it does go away. But you get admiration of it; that is, you just mock up huge masses of people looking up very admiringly at all of the explosion, particularly the black part of it And the blackness gets more and more soluble and more and more soluble, and sometimes your preclear gets sicker and sicker and sicker and more horribly – and he feels terrible, and big compartments start to fly out of his mind, and big chunks of blackness start to disappear around his body. And this opens up communication lines to all kinds of facsimiles and – that are all sucked dry, because you see, when they’re sucked completely dry it left only blackness. And he couldn’t communicate over that line anymore to the bank, and so it just stayed there. And all of a sudden it swells up, and this happens to be a time when Lord knows what happened, and he’s suddenly confronted with the huge picture of an elephant immediately facing him. And various things happen which make life interesting. But that technique and that sickness is really only very bad when you don’t back it up with objective processes.

Now, you can run what I just told you, which is this third kind – you run the combination of lots of explosions and lots of admiration of explosions and so on, you’ll only get him into trouble if you omitted the objective type of process; that’s to say, you omitted the corners of the room and the other unlimited techniques as contained in Triple SA You keep those up and he just goes along fine.

Now, those are the three first-line processes right up to there. And the fourth one would consist of any process which put him into immediate cognizance and made available to him, obviously, so that he knew it, the MEST universe present time. We’re going upstairs with these processes, you understand – we started with the weakest one and we’re getting stronger ones now. And after he finds out we’re really – can have present time and present time is wonderful and so on, and after he can have these huge masses of energy and so on, well, let’s start him into the fifth one, which is the rehabilitation of himself as an energy output unit, including his personality. And that’s the fifth process and the upper echelon one.

LRH: Oh!

Now, we go above that and we get to what we were talking about in the Doctorate Courses, which is just the construction of your own universe, which is interesting, if you can make large masses of energy. You won’t get anybody to be really interested in making his own universe unless he has big, beautiful, gorgeous blocks of energy that he himself can make and carve up and put together and so on. You know, there is nothing like something that you could get a good, solid contact on. Well, MEST is good that way. You get a contact on MEST; it doesn’t belong to you but it might as well, because you had your hand in it, I’m afraid.

ЛРХ: О!

And we’ve talked about MEST as a villain, but we’re talking about it because I like people to agree with me sometimes – not too often, but I like the no-randomity. But you’ve got this whole MEST universe as an antagonist if you insist upon being a single man who is not even part of the collective group. And so people agree with you when you say, „That MEST universe did this.“ The MEST universe didn’t do that any less than you did it to the MEST universe. Actually, it’s a series of overt acts on the part of the MEST universe and your part that finally stuck you with a collapsed terminal on the MEST universe.

Now, you’ll notice that we haven’t gone into overt act phenomena. We haven’t gone into engrams. We haven’t gone into para-Scientology at all-past lives, Fac One – none of this material. And that’s not because it isn’t there anymore or somebody changed his mind, it’s because we don’t need to do it anymore.

But if you want to know what’s happening to your preclear and what he’s talking about, it’s very, very fortunate that we have dug up, exhumed and brought to view a lot of phenomena which will be uncovered and talked about by a preclear during processing, whether you like it or not.

[to audience] You run into this every once in a while.

The preclear keeps saying, „I can’t get the camera away from in front of my face. You keep telling me to run this, but this camera keeps sticking in front of my face!“

[аудитории] Такое иногда бывает.

You will say, „That’s very funny; it probably refers to a libido complex on the part of his father. Well, let’s see, the camera, camera – camera represents pictures. Of course, he’s talking about pictures; we’ve said something about facsimiles, so he probably has a necessity for facsimiles. That’s probably what he wants,“ and so on. „And we’ll just go on and neglect this thing. And we’ll run it out next session.“ Rrruh. So you go down to the hospital…

That’s a Fac One machine, of course, and whether you like it or not, or when the preclear doesn’t like it, it’s got so much energy connected in – Fac One is such a heavy block of self-created energy in fighting a cameralike projector that it has been particularly delicious at various times in the past And now he’s gotten to a point where it’s no longer delicious, it’s just plain nothing but agony left in it and he can’t touch that thing any further. And he’ll get lines of agony walking across his body from the left to the right and the right to the left and around. And furthermore, he gets them into every endocrine gland he has, because these were selected out one by one, and you’ll get a sudden terrific enlargement of the thyroid and all sorts of things will happen. You say, „Well, that camera in front of his face, that doesn’t mean a thing. We’ll just go on to something else.“ You’re in for trouble unless you do something about that camera in front of his face.

What’s the best way to do something about the camera? And that’s simply to process, just what I was talking about, number four or number three until you’ve got the camera gone, and make sure it’s gone. Because it’s phenomena you’re going to encounter whether you want it there or not. But it’s in para-Scientology merely because we can’t really accurately establish its source, but it’s phenomena. In para-Scientology we can weave beautiful pictures and pleasant dreams and speculations and be highly scientific and curious and interesting and so forth, but we don’t necessarily have to get hanged with the data.

[to pc] Mock your mother up out there looking at you.

So, what is the various – the chains of reasoning, then, that you would follow in assaying – assessing a preclear so as to know what process to follow with the preclear? Well, you look at the fellow and you see whether or not he’s in a body. If he’s in a body, he’s in bad shape. He’s worried about Gertrude. He just can’t seem to get it off his mind, you can’t get him to concentrate. So you say, „Well, let’s see, this case is – I don’t know quite where we’ll enter this case, but he keeps talking about Gertrude.“

[преклиру] Смокапьте вашу мать вон там, смотрящей на вас.

Well, actually I can tell you a hundred ways we can process Gertrude – oh, thousands of ways. We can run facsimiles, we can run overt acts, we can have him shoot Gertrude and Gertrude shoot him and back and forth, and we can do all sorts of things – oh, most remarkable things to get rid of Gertrude. And if we want to fool around with it, and you really want just this fellow – fellow came to you because of Gertrude and so forth, you can just run the concept „Gertrude is in present time,“ „Gertrude is not in present time,“ „Gertrude is here,“ „Gertrude is not here.“ And we have a spot out in front of him say, „Gertrude is here“ and „Gertrude is not here.“ And after a while he stops worrying about Gertrude. But that comes in that first echelon I mentioned, which is the weakest process but yet got rid of an aberration.

You go down to an insane asylum or something – Volney wrote me the other day about some fellow that had eighteen dozen electric shocks and a prefrontal lobotomy and had all his teeth kicked out (in other words, psychiatrists had amused themselves no end), because he had a witch doctor who stood out in the front yard and gave him orders.

And he said, „Well, nobody can see her but myself, but…“ This is after the prefrontal lobotomy, he was still talking. A great shock. They wrote a huge – oh, they wrote pages and pages in the psychiatric journal, „Prefrontal lobotomy case still able to talk.“ Anyway, he was out there in the front yard – I wouldn’t mention the name of the hospital because I’d hate to condemn anybody in that hospital at all or give out any names, so we won’t mention Sawtelle out in Los Angeles. We won’t say a word about Sawtelle, I’m sure the doctors there – the psychiatrists rather, not the doctors – are doing their absolute level best I won’t say their best to do what, but it’s sure their best.

Because here’s the technique which springs this character who had a prefrontal lobotomy. He had a witch doctor out in the front yard and she gave him orders all the time. And all the therapist would have had to do is, „All right, get her certainty that she’s there.“ That’s all. Crumbled right at the edges, right with that entrance point And then, of course, you would have gone on in your certainty that she’s there and just run it all ways from Sunday, and you would have finished off with it The only anchor point he had out, evidently, was one witch doctoress that didn’t exist.

PC: Yes.

You’ll find a lot of preclears have demons; they come in and start talking to you about demons. Mystics sometimes will talk to you about demons and so forth, and you start to get them down to works, and they’ll say, „Well, we can’t do this, because this demon keeps flying around up in the air.“ They’re not crazy; they’re just being confidential. They’ve thought this all their lives; most of the people walking down the street kind of believe there’s a demon around someplace. Of course, it’s them. But anyway…

ПК: Да.

It’s a very good thing to ease the fellow’s mind, so he’ll give you some concentration. So you go in on that first level of case, and that’s the highest level of abstraction you want to hit in the case. You don’t want to go any further into abstraction than that; it’s just this concept level.

Now, there are a lot of interesting and dynamitish things you could run. For instance, Dick Halpern mentioned to me one that was just dynamite on this sort of thing – and it just throws the case into collapsed convulsions practically – and you just keep running, „It’s mine,“ „It’s not mine,“ and „I own it“ and „I don’t own it“ You know, took subzero Tone Scale – start running it as brackets and concepts on certainty, and you’ve really got a picnic on your hands.

I tested this out I had run some similar stuff to this, but I thought, „Gee whiz, now, he says, ‘It’s mine’ specifically. I wonder if you just ran ‘It’s mine’ on some preclear…“ The next thing you know, what happened? Ha. This preclear’s hand, Homo sapiens’ hand, was straight up in the air and quivering like this, you see. As a thetan he had restimulated himself and he couldn’t get his own arm down, because the electrical discharge was too great in it „The body is mine.“ That’s all I ran on this fellow and his fingers were about flying off. If I’d kept it up he probably would have shattered himself, but we couldn’t keep it up any further. Just „It’s mine“ – not on anything, particularly, except his body – “It’s mine.“ It’s fascinating.

LRH: Is she looking at you?

Any of these concepts have a terrific level of workability, and if you get a Resistive V case, you won’t be able to get him to run anything else right at first, unless you’re a very, very insistent fellow; because he knows what’s wrong with him; he really knows what’s wrong with him: it’s Gertrude or it’s demons or it’s something else. He’ll write you books about his own case if you’d let him. He knows what’s wrong.

ЛРХ: Она смотрит на вас?

In other words, what’s wrong with him is he’s figuring. He’s figuring because he hasn’t got force enough to overcome it; he’s thinking about it Well, he can’t think in terms of force so he thinks in terms of words. There’s the way we go on a case.

Those are the most favorable processes of which I have any cognizance at this time.

Now, on the level of abstraction, there is a very cute process which de-valencizes an individual fairly rapidly. And it’s awfully nice on some cases to process the preclear instead of Mama. You know, Mama is sitting there, but you’re supposed to be processing the preclear and he’s running out Mama’s problems.

PC: Mm-hm.

When you find yourself doing this, there is one, a process, which is very good about taking out valences, and this is called Q and A. Q and A stands for „Question and Answer,“ and the answer to the question or the question to the answer are both the same, because this is identification. And what is the question? It’s the Coca-Cola sign.

ПК: Угу.

Is there any problem or abstraction connected with a Coca-Cola sign? No, the answer to a Coca-Cola sign, in terms of MEST, is a Coca-Cola sign. So it would be the Coca-Cola sign as a question, feeling of a questionability with a Coca-Cola sign, a feeling of… Then you just turn the same sign, you understand – the same sign, not another sign – around facing the spot where it was as the answer. And a fellow, as he does this, begins to feel that he’s resolving all the problems of existence, because that’s the truth.

The only answer to a Coca-Cola sign is a Coca-Cola sign. The only answer to Mama is Mama. The only answer to Papa is Papa. The only answer to yourself is yourself. So, you’d just have a preclear mock himself up as a question and then as the answer. He starts to feel very learned. And most of the time he won’t be able to turn himself around facing himself; in other words, he won’t be able to get out in front of his face or anything.

He’ll just sit there running question, answer – identification complete and utter. Identification of the complete maybe; the question, the answer. And that is the technique.

LRH: Good. That’s all we wanted. Now put her body on backwards again...

Now, you have the preclear mock up Mama’s body over his own face as the question, then you turn Mama’s body around on him as the answer. And then you mock up Mama’s body on his face as the answer and then turn Mama’s body around on his body as the question. And then you have him mock up his body – Mania’s body out there, and have him put his body on Mama’s body as the question, and then turn his body around as the answer. My, he feels so learned. Because that’s all the questions and answers there are.

ЛРХ: Хорошо. Это все, чего мы хотели. Теперь снова наденьте на себя ее тело задом наперед...

And you do this with anybody he’s concerned about, worried about or in the valence of, and you’ll produce enough of a shift of valence to materially influence a change of attitude on the part of a case. This is not a long technique and it shouldn’t be run very long. It’s only when you run into such a tough valence problem or such a tough problem about some object that your processing is grossly interrupted, at which time you simply fly in with a little bit of Q and A, and throw him out of the valence.

You find that the person is in the valence of a bedpost? therefore, the bedpost was the question, and it became the answer. And so you get him out of being a bedpost and then you can process a human being.

Okay, let’s take a break. That’s not the end of the afternoon session.

PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: ... as a question. Now rotate it one turn, facing where it was as the answer. ЛРХ: ...в качестве вопроса. Теперь поверните ее один раз, чтобы она была лицом в ту же сторону, что и раньше, в качестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: You did it that time. If you don’t mind me making a comment... ЛРХ: На этот раз вы это сделали. Если вы не возражаете против того, что я прокомментирую... [to audience] It’s simply the manifestation of trying to attract Mama’s attention. And it’s simply solved by getting Mama to look at him. [аудитории] Это просто проявление того, что человек пытается привлечь внимание мамы. И это можно разрешить, просто добившись, чтобы мама на него смотрела. [to pc] Isn’t that the way it seemed? [преклиру] Похоже на то, не так ли? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Okay All right. Let’s throw that one away and put Mama’s body on backwards. ЛРХ: Ладно. Хорошо. Выбросьте его, и наденьте на себя тело матери задом наперед. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now make it feel like it’s a terrific answer. ЛРХ: Теперь пусть у него возникнет чувство, что это потрясающий ответ. PC:[pause]Don’tfeelthatway, particularly. ПК: [пауза] Не особо это чувствую. LRH: You won’t feel that way? Well, make it as the question. ЛРХ:Выэтогонечувствуете?Чтож, сделайте это вопросом. [to audience] We’ve located it. [аудитории] Мы это нашли. [to pc] Make it as a question. [преклиру] Сделайте это вопросом. PC: Yeah. ПК: Да. LRH: Now turn it around as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его в качестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Okay. Throw that one away. ЛРХ: Ладно. Выбросьте его. [to audience] See, what we’re actually running here is a gradient scale, a tiny, tiny gradient scale of Something-Nothing. You get a questioning feeling and the answering feeling is just getting on either side of the maybe, very close to the maybe, with the identical object. And you’re just spreading out that hang-up of maybe which is the complete arrest of the person on the track. And this is the tiniest way we can go about working apart this. And of course, you get this in familial relations. All right. [аудитории] Понимаете, на самом деле мы здесь проходим градиентную шкалу, крохотную, крохотную градиентную шкалу «Нечто - ничто». Вы получаете чувство вопроса и чувство ответа, и вы просто оказываетесь по обе стороны от «может быть», очень близко к «может быть», в отношении одного и того же объекта. И вы просто расправляете это зависание из-за «может быть», которое полностью останавливает человека на траке. И это самый скрупулезный способ работы с этим. И, конечно же, вы находите это, прорабатывая родственников. Ну хорошо. [to pc] You got a brother? No. [преклиру] У вас есть брат? Нет. PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: You got a brother? ЛРХ: У вас есть брат? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Okay. Put your brother’s body on backwards as a question. ЛРХ: Ладно. Наденьте на себя тело своего брата задом наперед в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: Now turn it around on yourself as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его на себе в качестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Throw it away. ЛРХ: Выбросьте его. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Put it on backwards again as the question. ЛРХ: Снова наденьте его на себя задом наперед в качестве вопроса. PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: Turn it around as the answer. ЛРХ: Поверните его в качестве ответа. PC: I guess I want attention from him, too. ПК: Думаю, я хочу получить внимание и от него. LRH: Does he keep turning? Well, mock him up out here looking at you. ЛРХ: Он продолжает поворачиваться? Что ж, смокапьте его вот здесь смотрящим на вас. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH:Nowmakehimlookatyou pleasantly. ЛРХ: Теперь пусть онсмотрит навас любезно. PC: [laughs] All right. ПК: [смеется] Ладно. LRH: Okay. Now mock him up out there and put your body on his backwards. ЛРХ: Ладно. Теперь смокапьте его вон там и наденьте на него ваше тело задом наперед. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Get a questioning feeling in your body. Now turn it around facing where it was as the answer. ЛРХ: Получите чувство вопроса в своем теле. Теперь поверните его лицом в ту же сторону, что и раньше, в качестве ответа. PC: It won't turn. ПК: Оно не поворачивается. LRH: Huh! Right where it is, make it the answer. ЛРХ: Ха! Сделайте его ответом прямо там, где оно находится. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: [to audience] See, it had gone into a complete identification. Okay. ЛРХ: [аудитории] Понимаете, оно попало в полное отождествление. Хорошо, [to pc] Now get his body there again with your body covering it backwards. [преклиру] Теперь снова поместите туда его тело, а поверх него – свое задом наперед. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now make it the question. ЛРХ: Теперь сделайте его вопросом. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now make it the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь сделайте его ответом. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Okay. Let’s throw that mock-up away. And let’s now put your brother out here – mock-up again. ЛРХ: Ладно. Выбросьте этот мокап. Теперь поместите своего брата вот сюда... снова мокап. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Put your body on his backwards. ЛРХ: Наденьте свое тело на его тело задом наперед. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Make that the question. ЛРХ: Сделайте его вопросом. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now turn it around as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его вкачестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Turned that time. Good. ЛРХ: На этот раз оно повернулось. Хорошо. PC: No trouble. ПК: Никаких проблем. LRH: Throw that away. Okay. You married? ЛРХ: Выбросьте его. Ладно. Вы женаты? PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: Married. Put your wife’s body on backwards as a question. ЛРХ: Женаты. Наденьте на себя тело вашей жены задом наперед в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: Turn it around now as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его вкачестве ответа. PC: She went all the way around, too. ПК: Она тоже повернулась кругом. LRH: She did, huh? Put her out here looking at you. ЛРХ: Она повернулась, да? Поместите ее вот сюда смотрящей на вас. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: Okay. Now put your body over hers backwards as the question. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Теперь наденьте свое тело поверх ее тела задом наперед в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: And turn it around as the answer. ЛРХ: И поверните его в качестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: Throw that away. ЛРХ: Выбросьте его. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Put a mock-up of her out here. ЛРХ: Поместите ее мокап вот сюда. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Put your body on hers backwards. ЛРХ: Наденьте на нее свое тело задом наперед. PC: Yeah. ПК: Да. LRH: Now turn it around as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его вкачестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: Now, we can get a slight variation on this. Mock-up your wife’s body facing over here toward the audience... ЛРХ: Так вот, мы можем слегка видоизменить это. Смокапьте тело вашей жены лицом сюда, к аудитории... PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: ... as a question. ЛРХ: ...в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: All right. Now turn that mock-up around facing where it was as the answer. ЛРХ: Ладно. Теперь поверните этот мокап лицом в ту же сторону, что и раньше, в качестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Okay. Throw that away. ЛРХ: Ладно. Выбросьте его. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now... what happened? ЛРХ: Теперь... Что случилось? PC: Nothing. ПК: Ничего. LRH: What’s this restriction? You just sucked... ЛРХ: Что это за ограничение? Вы только что втянули... PC: Pressure. ПК: Давление. LRH: Pressure? What pressure are you feeling? ЛРХ:Давление?Какоедавлениевы чувствуете? PC: I don't know. I feel it most of the time. ПК: Я не знаю. Я чувствую его большую часть времени. LRH: Is that so? Put the pressure right where it is as a question. ЛРХ: Правда? Поместите это давление прямо туда, где оно находится, в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Leave it right .where it is as the answer. ЛРХ: Оставьте его прямо там, где оно находится, в качестве ответа. PС: [laughs] All right. ПК: [смеется ] Хорошо. LRH: All right. Now throw that away. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Теперь выбросьте его. And put the pressure right where it is... И поместите это давление прямо туда, где оно находится... PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: ... as the answer. ЛРХ: ...в качестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now turn it around as the question. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его вкачестве вопроса. PC: [sigh] Mm-hm. ПК: [вздох] Угу. LRH: Were you able to do that? ЛРХ: У вас получилось? All right. Good. Throw it away. Now put the pressure there again as the question. Ладно. Хорошо. Выбросьте его. Теперь снова поместите это давление туда в качестве вопроса. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now turn it around as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его вкачестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: Okay. Throw that away. Now put the pressure out... ЛРХ:Хорошо.Выбросьтеего.Теперь поместите это давление вон... PC: I – uh... ПК: Я... э... LRH: What? ЛРХ: Что? PC: I have somatics in my chest now as though... ПК: У меня сейчас соматика в груди, как будто... LRH: Yeah? ЛРХ: Да? PC: ...they’ve been crushed or something. ПК: ...она раздавлена или что-то в этом роде. LRH: Well, all right. All right. You been fighting with this somatic in processing? ЛРХ: Что ж, хорошо. Хорошо. Вы боролись с этой соматикой в процессинге? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Yeah. Well this shows you this is a quickie on a chronic somatic. Very quick. Put this pressure out here now as a question. ЛРХ: Да. Что ж, это говорит о том, что это быстрый способ устранить хроническую соматику. Очень быстрый. Теперь поместите это давление вот сюда в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Ладно. LRH: Turn it around where it was as an answer. ЛРХ: Поверните его там, где оно было, в качестве ответа. PC: It’s spinning. ПК: Оно вращается. LRH: It’s spinning. Put that pressure out ЛРХ:Оновращается.Поместитеэто here looking at you. давление вот сюда смотрящим на вас. PС: [laughs] Yeah. ПК: [смеется] Да. LRH: Got that? ЛРХ: Сделали? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: All right. Throw it away. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Выбросьте его. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: All right. Put the pressure out here again as, this time, the answer. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Снова поместите это давление вот сюда, на этот раз в качестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Turn it around as the question. ЛРХ: Поверните его в качестве вопроса. PC: It’s still spinning. ПК: Оно по-прежнему вращается. LRH: Ho-ho. Take the thing spinning out here... ЛРХ: Хо-хо. Поместите эту вращающуюся штуку вот сюда... PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: ... and make that spin as the question. ЛРХ: ...и сделайте это вращение вопросом. PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: Now move it over a little bit, still spinning, as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь слегка переместите его - по-прежнему вращающегося – в качестве ответа. PC: [pause] All right. ПК: [пауза] Хорошо. LRH: Got that? ЛРХ: Сделали? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now throw it away. ЛРХ: Теперь выбросьте его. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now let’s see if we can put this ЛРХ: Теперь давайте посмотрим, не сумеем pressure out here as the question. ли мы поместить это давление вот сюда в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now turn it around once as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните его один раз в качестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Did it stop spinning that time? ЛРХ: В этот раз оно перестало вращаться? PC: No. ПК: Нет. LRH: It didn’t. It’s still spinning. Good. All right, nothing wrong with that. Let’s have this thing spin out here. ЛРХ: Не перестало. Оно по-прежнему вращается. Хорошо. Ладно, ничего страшного. Пусть эта штука вращается вот здесь. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Make it a question. ЛРХ: Сделайте ее вопросом. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now move it over a bit as the answer. ЛРХ:Теперьслегкапереместитееев качестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Throw it away. ЛРХ: Выбросьте ее. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Put it out here spinning as the question. ЛРХ: Поместите ее вот сюда, вращающуюся, в качестве вопроса. PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: Move it over as the answer. ЛРХ: Слегка переместите ее в качестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now let’s put about five chest pressures out here as the question. ЛРХ: Теперь поместите сюда примерно пять давлений на грудь в качестве вопроса. PC: [laughs] All right. ПК: [смеется] Хорошо. LRH: Now let’s turn them all around as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните все их в качестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Let’s throw those away. ЛРХ: Выбросьте их. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: All right. Let’s put about five hundred chest pressures out here as the question. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Поместите сюда примерно пятьсот давлений на грудь в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now let’s turn them all around, as a mass, as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните их все, как некую массу, в качестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Good. Now let’s throw those away. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Теперь выбросьте их. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: And let’s put a half a dozen chest pressures behind you as the question. ЛРХ: Поместите позади себя в качестве вопроса полдюжины давлений на грудь. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now let’s turn them around as the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь поверните их в качестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Okay, let’s throw those away. ЛРХ: Хорошо, выбросьте их. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now let’s just start mocking-up chest pressures out in back of you there. ЛРХ:Теперьпростоначнитемокапить давления на грудь вон там, позади себя. PС: [pause] Doing that. ПК: [пауза] Делаю это. LRH: Keep mocking them up. Get lots of them out there. When you’ve got that all ЛРХ: Продолжайте мокапить их. Поместите их туда в большом количестве. Когда там у full out there, start filling in, in front. вас все заполнится, начните заполнять ими область перед собой. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now put the feeling of question all through this mass of chest pressures. ЛРХ: Теперь поместите чувство вопроса во всю эту массу давлений на грудь. PC: Yeah. ПК: Да. LRH: Now change that to a feeling of an answer all through these chest pressures. ЛРХ: Теперь измените это на чувство ответа во всех этих давлениях на грудь. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now reach out and crush them all to your chest. ЛРХ: Теперь дотянитесь до них и вомните все их в свою грудь. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Got them? ЛРХ: Вмяли? PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: Okay. Now let’s just spread them all out again from your chest. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Теперь просто выпустите все их из груди. PC: [pause ] All right. ПК: [пауза] Хорошо. LRH: Okay. Let’s put them in yesterday. ЛРХ: Ладно. Поместите их во вчера. PC: Okay. ПК: Ладно. LRH: How do you feel? ЛРХ: Как вы себя чувствуете? PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Has that chest pressure changed? ЛРХ: Изменилось ли это давление на грудь? PC: Yes. I think it’s gone, more or less. I’ve still got somewhat of a somatic, but the pressure seems to be gone. ПК: Да. По-моему, оно исчезло, более или менее. У меня по-прежнему есть небольшая соматика, но давление, похоже, исчезло. LRH: Where’s the somatic? ЛРХ: Где соматика? PC: Right in here. ПК: Прямо здесь. LRH: Right there. Bad? ЛРХ: Прямо там. Сильная? PC: No. ПК: Нет. LRH: Why don’t you put it there as the question? ЛРХ: Почему бы вам не поместить ее там в качестве вопроса? PC: [laughs] All right. ПК: [смеется] Хорошо. LRH: Turn it around as the answer. ЛРХ: Поверните ее в качестве ответа. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Throw it away. ЛРХ: Выбросьте ее. PC: Okay. ПК: Ладно. LRH: How is it now? ЛРХ: Ну как сейчас? PC: Better. ПК: Лучше. LRH: Better. Put it there as a question again. ЛРХ: Лучше. Снова поместите ее там в качестве вопроса. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Turn it around as the answer. ЛРХ: Поверните ее в качестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Throw it away. ЛРХ: Выбросьте ее. PC: Okay. ПК: Ладно. LRH: Now mock-up your body out in front of you as the question. ЛРХ: Теперь смокапьте ваше тело перед собой в качестве вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now make it, just as it stands there, the answer. ЛРХ: Теперь сделайте его – прямо так, как оно там стоит – ответом. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now throw it away. ЛРХ: Теперь выбросьте его. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Mock it up as the question. ЛРХ: Смокапьте его в качестве вопроса. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Turn it around facing itself as the answer. ЛРХ: Поверните его лицом к нему самому в качестве ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Throw it away. ЛРХ: Выбросьте его. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Mock-up your body about five feet in front of you as though you were ridiculing it. ЛРХ: Смокапьте свое тело примерно в полутора метрах перед собой как если бы вы насмехались над ним. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: What happens as you do that? ЛРХ: Что происходит, когда вы это делаете? PC: It turned away from me. ПК: Оно отвернулось от меня. LRH: Hm. Now, just one after the other, put a few dozen bodies out here, one after the other. ЛРХ: Хм. Просто поместите здесь одно за другим несколько десятков тел, одно за другим. PC: My own? ПК: Моих? LRH: Of your own... ЛРХ: Ваших... PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: ...ridiculing each one each time. ЛРХ: ...каждый раз насмехаясь над каждым из них. PC: [pause] Mm-hm. They shrivel up and disappear. ПК:[пауза]Угу.Онисъеживаются, сморщиваются и исчезают. LRH: Okay. Just keep putting them there. ЛРХ: Ладно. Просто продолжайте помещать их здесь. PC: [pause] Yeah. ПК: [пауза] Да. LRH: Are they still shriveling up? ЛРХ: Они по-прежнему съеживаются? PC: No. ПК: Нет. LRH: No. Well, all right. ЛРХ: Нет. Ну хорошо. PC: They don’t give a damn. ПК: Им наплевать. LRH: They don’t give a damn. ЛРХ: Им наплевать. Хорошо. Good. Now put your body out there in front of you again and have its head blown off by an explosion. Теперь снова поместите ваше тело перед собой, и пусть ему снесет голову взрывом. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Is that easy? ЛРХ: Это легко? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Did you get sonic on the explosion? ЛРХ: Вы получили соник взрыва? PC: Hm, no. ПК: Хм, нет. LRH: No? Well, put another body out there. ЛРХ: Нет? Что ж, поместите здесь еще одно тело. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Blow its head off. [pause] Throw it away, put another body there and blow its head off. ЛРХ: Снесите ему голову, [пауза] Выбросьте его, поместите здесь другое тело и снесите ему голову. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Put another body there and blow its head off. ЛРХ: Поместите здесь другое тело и снесите ему голову. PC: Yeah. ПК: Да. LRH: Got a sonic on it yet? ЛРХ: Вы еще не получили соника на этом? PC: No. I get a nice explosion but no noise. ПК: Нет. Я получаю замечательный взрыв, но никакого шума. LRH: No noise. Well, that’s all right. Put a radio – this is not necessarily germane to our-process – but put a radio out there someplace and just make it start exploding. ЛРХ: Никакого шума. Что ж, ладно. Поместите радио... это необязательно имеет отношение к нашему процессу... но поместите где-нибудь здесь радио, и пусть оно просто начнет взрываться. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Got the radio exploding? ЛРХ: Вы заставили радио взорваться? PC: Yeah. ПК: Да. LRH: Make it explode some more. Make it explode until you can hear a sound. [pause] Who was the big talker in your family? ЛРХ: Заставьте его взрываться еще. Заставьте его взрываться, пока не услышите звук. [пауза] Кто в вашей семье очень много говорил? PC: My dad, I guess. ПК: Мой отец, я думаю. LRH: Your dad. Put your dad out there and have him explode. Put him out there and get him exploding and throw him away and put another dad there and get him exploding and throw him away. Got that? ЛРХ: Ваш отец. Поместите вашего отца сюда и заставьте его взорваться. Поместите его сюда и заставьте его взрываться и выбросьте его, и поместите сюда другого отца и заставьте его взрываться и выбросьте его. Сделали? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Keep getting him exploding until you can hear his voice. ЛРХ:Продолжайтезаставлятьего взрываться, пока не услышите его голос. PC: [pause] Um ... blows up very nicely, but no noise. ПК:[пауза]Э...взрываетсяпросто замечательно, но никакого шума. LRH: His voice, not the sound of the explosion. ЛРХ: Его голос, а не звук взрыва. PC: Oh. [pause] Yeah, I can hear his voice. ПК: О. [пауза] Да, я слышу его голос. LRH: Good. All right. Do it some more. Put him there and blow him up some more until you can hear his voice real good. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Ладно. Продолжайте делать это. Помещайте его сюда и взрывайте, пока не услышите его голос очень хорошо. PC: Hear him laughing. ПК: Слышу, как он смеется. LRH: Good. ЛРХ: Хорошо. PC: [pause] Mm-hm. ПК: [пауза] Угу. LRH: Good. Good. Did your chest have any feeling in it then, just for a moment? Something? ЛРХ: Хорошо. Хорошо. Появилось ли у вас в тот момент какое-либо чувство в груди, всего лишь на мгновенье? Какое-нибудь? PC: No, not on that one... ПК: Нет, не в этот раз... LRH: Good. Good. Well, throw him away, put your body out here now and blow its head off again. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Хорошо. Что ж, выбросьте его, теперь поместите здесь ваше тело и снова снесите ему голову. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Hm? ЛРХ: А? PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: Good. Now put your body facing you and blow its chest off. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Теперь поместите здесь ваше тело лицом к вам и снесите ему грудь. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: All right. Just let it fall to one side and put another body there. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Просто позвольте ему упасть в сторону и поместите здесь другое тело. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Blow its chest off. ЛРХ: Снесите ему грудь. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now put a woman’s body there and blow its chest off. ЛРХ: Теперь поместите здесь тело женщины и снесите ему грудь. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now put your body there and have a woman blow its chest off. ЛРХ: Теперь поместите здесь ваше тело, и пусть женщина снесет ему грудь. PC: Mm-hm. Yes. ПК: Угу. Да. LRH: Okay. Okay. Now just as you’re sitting there, right where you’re sitting, get the feeling all through your beingness of a question. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Хорошо. Теперь, просто сидя там, прямо там, где вы сидите, получите во всей вашей бытийности чувство вопроса. PC: All right. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Now all through your being replace it with the feeling of an answer. ЛРХ: Теперь замените его во всем вашем существе чувством ответа. PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: Okay. All through your being, now get again the feeling of a question. ЛРХ: Хорошо. Во всем вашем существе теперь снова получите чувство вопроса. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now the feeling of an answer. ЛРХ: Теперь – чувство ответа. PC: Yes. ПК: Да. LRH: Now again the feeling of a question. ЛРХ: Теперь – снова чувство вопроса. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Now the feeling of an answer. ЛРХ: Теперь – чувство ответа. PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Got any somatics? ЛРХ: Получили какие-нибудь соматики? PC: No. ПК: Нет. LRH: Good. Feel pretty good? ЛРХ: Хорошо. Чувствуете себя довольно неплохо? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: All right. Reach out of your head, so to speak, and find two upper corners of the room. ЛРХ: Ладно. Потянитесь вовне, так сказать, из своей головы, и найдите два верхних угла комнаты. PC: Long way to reach. ПК: Они далеко. LRH: Okay. ЛРХ: Ладно. PC: Okay, I've got them. ПК: Ладно, я их нашел. LRH: You got them? ЛРХ: Вы их нашли? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: Okay. Don’t think for a moment, just hold on to them. [pause] Well, how do you feel now? ЛРХ: Ладно. Сейчас не думайте, просто держитесь за них. [пауза] Что ж, как вы сейчас себя чувствуете? PC: Good. ПК: Хорошо. LRH: Feel good? ЛРХ: Чувствуете себя хорошо? PC: Mm-hm. ПК: Угу. LRH: You feel any better than you did? ЛРХ: Вы чувствуете себя сколько-нибудь лучше, чем раньше? PC: I think so. ПК: Думаю, что так. LRH: You think so. Don’t know so yet. ЛРХ: Вы думаете, что так. Вы еще не знаете, что это так. PC: [laughs] I do! ПК: [смеется] Я знаю! LRH: Oh, you do. Good. ЛРХ: О, вы знаете. Хорошо. What was the reaction – of course, you must realize, we didn’t give a full course of run on this. This is a... Какой была ваша реакция... разумеется, вы должны понимать, что мы не прошли это полностью. Это... Male voice: Mm-hm. Мужской голос: Угу. ... condensed version of Q and A. All right. We didn’t use as many people as we might have, but what was your reaction while I was asking you to do that? I mean, what happened while you were fitting the mock- ups on and so forth? ...сжатая версия «В-и-О». Ну хорошо. Мы не проработали столько людей, сколько могли бы, но какой была ваша реакция, когда я просил вас делать это? Я имею в виду, что происходило, когда вы примеряли на себя мокапы и так далее? Male voice: There wasn’t much of any reaction. The question would bring a sense of alertness somewhat... Мужской голос: Не было никакой особой реакции. Вопрос вызывал в какой-то мере чувство алертности... Mm-hm. Угу. Male voice:... and the answer would bring a feeling of certainty or finality or something of the sort. Мужской голос: ...а ответ вызывал чувство уверенности или завершенности или что-то вроде этого. Mm-hm. Would you find it easier to put them on the second or third time and turn them around than at first? Угу. Вам было легче помещать их на себя во второй или в третий раз и поворачивать, чем в первый? Malevoice:Ohyes.Mm-hm.Very definitely. Мужской голос: О да. Угу. Совершенно определенно. Found this was easier to do? Вам было легче это делать? Male voice: Mm-hm. Мужской голос: Угу. Good. Now on explosions, when I was asking you to explode your father’s – blow him up and so forth – have you had sonic on his voice easily in the past? Хорошо. Теперь по поводу взрывов, когда я просил вас взрывать вашего отца... сметать его и так далее... легко ли вам было получать соник его голоса в прошлом? Male voice: I haven’t had any sonic up until a short time ago. Мужской голос: У меня не было никакого соника вплоть до последнего времени. Oh? What happened? Да? Что произошло? Male voice: Well, processing with Creative Processing, SOP 8, I can now get a pretty strong impression or actual sonic. It’s... Мужской голос: Ну, процессинг с использованием «Процессинга создания», CPП 8... теперь я могу получать довольно сильное впечатление о звуке или настоящий соник. Это... Mm-hm. Угу. Male voice: ...just on the borderline. Мужской голос: ...просто на грани. Good. Did this assist it any with your father? Хорошо. Помогло ли это в какой-то мере с вашим отцом? Male voice: I think so. Мужской голос: Думаю, что да. Mm-hm. Did any mechanics of that occur to you, why an explosion should suddenly make the sound? Угу. Вы поняли какие-либо механические аспекты, связанные с тем, почему вдруг взрыв создает звук? Male voice: No, not at the time. Мужской голос: Нет, не в то время. Why the explosions – okay. All right. I won’t try your patience any further. Thank you very much. Почему взрывы... ладно. Хорошо. Я больше не буду испытывать ваше терпение. Большое спасибо. [аудитории] Это, как я сказал, была демонстрация «В-и-О». Так вот... Что?

Женский голос: Является ли отсутствие соника у людей следствием их чувства черноты или частичной черноты по отношению к чему-либо?

Нет. Я как раз собирался вам сказать. Вот как эта вселенная дурачит людей. Мы еще много будем говорить об этом, поскольку отсутствие восприятий и отсутствие восприятий в риколе вызывает довольно сильный интерес у многих людей.

И существуют методы атаковать это напрямую. Вот что очень забавно: в космосе, где нет воздуха, никогда не бывает звука, за исключением тех случаев, когда его проводит какая-нибудь электронная волна. Иначе говоря, наиболее распространенным и практически единственным непосредственным источником звука в космосе является взрыв.

И когда взрыв порождает звук, индивидуум, будь он в теле или нет, получает впечатление от звука. И жизнь в какой-то мере приучена к тому, что это и есть звук; это взрыв. И если вы просто начнете взрывать радиоприемники или какого-нибудь взрывного члена семьи, вы обнаружите, что каждый раз, когда кто-то громко шумел, человек думал, что это взрыв, и настораживался в надежде получить реакцию и всю ту замечательную энергию, которая должна была обрушиться прямо на него, понимаете? Но человек продолжал говорить, а никакого взрыва не было. Поэтому чем больше человек слышал звук, тем сильнее становился жажда взрывов.

И вот вы начинаете заниматься этим, и в поле зрения появляются киноэкраны и всякая всячина. Почему? Потому что на экране вообще нет настоящего взрыва, это просто что-то, что выходит из громкоговорителя. И тем не менее эта штука делает бах, бах, бах.

Вы начинаете работать таким образом с закупоренным кейсом, и вот одно из явлений, с которыми вы столкнетесь в первую очередь: вы можете попросить человека взрывать что-то медленно. Понимаете, он так сильно подавляет все это. «Теперь получите взрыв, который вы не можете иметь» – это самый легкий способ начать работать с этим подавлением. Он продвигается вперед и вдруг появляются голоса людей, или начинают звучать фонограммы, или внезапно раздается звук фортепьяно. Ведь фортепьяно – это самое большое жульничество, понимаете; фортепьяно делает бац, бац, бум, бах, и очевидно, что из фортепьяно исходит звук потрясающей громкости, но при этом из него не выходит сколько-нибудь соизмеримого с этой громкостью количества энергии. Поэтому вы просто мокапите взрывающееся фортепьяно. Вы продолжаете мокапить взрывающиеся фортепьяно, и при этом у человека включается фортепьянная музыка. Вы продолжаете мокапить взрывающиеся радиоприемники, и при этом включается музыка, идущая из радио.

Вы понимаете, что представляет собой перекрытие? Это энергетический голод, связанный с тем, что восприятие, указывающее на наличие энергии, присутствовало здесь, на Земле, долгое время. Восприятие постоянно твердит: «Энергия присутствует. Энергия присутствует. Взрывы присутствуют. Энергия присутствует». Но ничего этого нет. И парень просто постоянно опустошает свой банк.

Он не мокапит все это, поскольку прямо там, на экране, сказано: «Это взрыв». И там летают снаряды, появляются картинки войны и все такое. И он смотрит прямо на экран, и очевидно, что все это прямо там, и он просто верит в это полностью и безоговорочно. Вот только, конечно же, там этого нет. Итак, он видит это, поэтому он это не мокапит.

Что ж, если он это не мокапит, он не получает из этого никакой энергии. Если он не получает из этого никакой энергии, а восприятие говорит, что энергия присутствует, то все, что он может сделать, так это опустошить свой банк, высосав из него звук и взрывы. Звуки присутствуют, поэтому он продолжает поставлять взрывы из собственного банка и хранилища энергии. И вот эти взрывы все поступают и поступают, но он их не создает, поэтому они просто полностью опустошают его банк. И восприятия присутствуют, тогда как энергии нет; а затем восприятия вдруг исчезают, поскольку он больше не может позволить себе слышать и он больше не может позволить себе видеть, ведь в противном случае его нехватка энергии станет еще более острой. И он уже достиг критического уровня, и он больше не может вынести это, так что он просто говорит: «Я не должен видеть, я не должен слышать».

Это проблема исключительно механического характера. Легче всего исправить это состояние при помощи взрывов.

Так вот, что касается черноты, которая следует за взрывом... если вы будете просто продолжать это, она уйдет сама собой. Но существует способ ускорить это – нужно сделать так, чтобы множество людей восхищались этой чернотой, поскольку в прошлом они никогда не восхищались чернотой. Самая безопасная техника заключается просто в том, чтобы продолжать делать это.

Так вот, «В-и-О», как я уже сказал... работая с индивидуумом, вы сталкиваетесь с вэйлансом... с небольшими трудностями, связанными с вэйлансом, или с большими трудностями, связанными с вэйлансом... вы просто продолжаете процесс, который я вам здесь продемонстрировал. Я зашел гораздо дальше этого, когда забавлялся со взрывами и так далее. Я хотел устроить для вас небольшой «предварительный просмотр». Но почему-то у меня всегда возникает интерес к преклиру.

Как бы то ни было, «В-и-О» проводится просто таким вот образом. Но этот процесс проводится с использованием полной вилки – это оптимально – то есть, другие люди надевают на себя тела других людей задом наперед вот здесь... это двойные мокапы... и они надевают на себя тела других людей вот здесь задом наперед, и поворачивают их в качестве ответов для других людей. Мы добавили бы сюда этот шаг, если бы всерьез проводили весь этот процесс.

Но обычно вам нужно проводить этот процесс лишь до тех пор, пока не включится хроническая соматика индивидуума и в поле зрения не появится человек, от которого он ее получил; и вы исправляете нехватку внимания точно так, как исправлял ее я, и вы поворачиваете эту штуку достаточное количество раз, чтобы эта хроническая соматика не беспокоила человека, и тогда вам больше не придется иметь дело с этой хронической соматикой.

И вы видели, как здесь проводился именно этот процесс. Конечно же, преклир сказал, что ничего не произошло, поскольку это процесс с отрицательными достижениями. Но если вы заметили, он действительно получил свою хроническую соматику. Делайте это каждый раз.

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